Friday, February 12, 2010

Obama's Hopey, Change Circus

Upon his capture, the most beautiful words a terrorist can hear are the following:

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”

If you read the above paragraph, you have just been "Mirandized." That is the Miranda Warning that law enforcement officers must recite to every criminal suspect they question -- if they want to introduce something as evidence in any criminal proceeding.

The ringleaders for Obama's Hopey Change Circus, Mssrs. Holder and Gibbs, maintain that the proper procedure for bringing terrorists to justice is arrest them and give them full Constitutional protection as afforded to every American citizen. From the Weekly Standard, Thomas Joscelyn writes:

During an interview on MSNBC Thursday morning, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs defended the Obama administration’s handling of Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. Gibbs argued that the administration was right to treat Abdulmutallab as a criminal defendant, instead of as an enemy combatant. “Just because you make somebody an enemy combatant [it] doesn’t make them talk,” Gibbs argued. He then pointed to an example from the Bush years to supposedly support his point.

“Jose Padilla was made an enemy combatant so that we could get him to talk,” Gibbs said. “And guess what happened when we made him an enemy combatant, he didn't talk. He did talk when he was transferred back into a civilian court.”

President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, made the same point on Tuesday in an op-ed for USA Today. Brennan argued: “Terrorists such as Jose Padilla and Saleh al-Mari did not cooperate when transferred to military custody, which can harden one's determination to resist cooperation.”

Brennan and Gibbs are wrong. In fact, Jose Padilla only started cooperating once he was transferred into the military’s custody and interrogated.

Joscelyn also calls their bluff:

Thus, when Padilla was initially detained by the FBI in May 2002 authorities knew he was up to no good. The FBI questioned Padilla for several hours but got nowhere. A copy of the FBI’s 302 memo written after the initial questioning of Padilla shows that al Qaeda’s man gave the bureau nothing. Padilla talked about his personal history but said nothing about his real intentions or his nefarious friends.

So a month later, in June 2002, Padilla was transferred back into military custody. Things changed in a hurry. Waterboarding is my friend.

The memo then reads: “Since that time [June 9, 2002], additional and more detailed intelligence information about Jose Padilla has been developed and made available in unclassified form.”

As a retired LEO, I have had to deal with the consequences of Miranda v. Arizona. In NYS the restrictions are even greater. If a suspect is already in criminal proceedings from a prior arrest, the right to counsel automatically attaches and you cannot interrogate him under any circumstances unless he first confers with his lawyer. This means that even if the suspect wants to confess and voluntarily waives his right to counsel, he cannot and you cannot until he talks with his lawyer,

Obama, Brennan, Holder and Gibbs want to reduce terrorism to the level of a convenience store robbery.

They want to turn this:


Into This:


Charlotte said...

As a retired LEO, I have had to deal with the consequences of Miranda v. Arizona. In NYS the restrictions are even greater.

NY cop? Skip Miranda and go straight to Louima. Come on, you know you want to.

Snarky Basterd said...

<span><span>Hey! Your back. Where the hell have you been, jail?</span></span>

Ron Russell said...

If I were a law enforcement officer and was presented with one of these bastards, yep I would read him his rights just before I shoved my pistol up his ass and told him how the "cow ate the cabbage".

Snarky Basterd said...

Now THAT my friend is what we call Buckwheats -- from the most underrated mob flick eva, Things To Do in Denver When You're Dead:

<span>"Buckwheats is a whole other animal. A guy orders a buckwheats hit, it just doesn't mean take the guy out, it means take the guy out in the most painful way possible. It means the vic should suffer. Typical buckwheat hit is to shoot a guy up the ass. Yeah, uh, ba-bing. A slug up the ass, you don't die so much as contort for a good 15 minutes, then you die. I imagine it's like crappin' white-hot razor blades."</span>

Teresa Rice said...

This pussy ass Obama administration is aiding the terrorists and giving them extra rights that they are not entitled to.  I think I would do a better job at interrogating the terrorists and getting at the truth than these weak circus freaks in the Obama administration and those in the military buying into BO's peacenick utopian bullshit. This adminstration pisses me off so bad.

The Kid said...

Truly unbelievable stuff.

sig94 said...

Wow, first Louima then Buckwheats.
And the Oscar for Scatological Consequences Movie of the Year goes to "Broomsticks and Bullets."

Bunni said...

They make me sick, they should all be waterboarded, until
obummer and holder admit they are the ENEMY!
I like Ron's idea too. =-O

Bunni said...

I think you would too, Teresa!

cbullitt said...

No. It's, "Mirandize This, you waffle-eating prick!"

silverfiddle said...

I like this new place.  It's smaller, the acoustics are better...

Charlotte said...

Nope. Jury duty on the Scott Roeder trial. Bunch of Kansan pussies. Just because there are multiple witnesses and a confession on the stand is no reason to find the guy guilty. 

One Ticked Chick said...

Retired General Wesley Clarke was interviewed on O'Reilly tonight and said federal court is the best place to prosecute these terrorists.  What in the world is this man thinking? 

sig94 said...

Wesley "Toot Toot Tutsis" Clarke is the person to tell us where to prosecute war criminals. After all, he served in Rwanda with his thumb up his ass while 800,000 people were butchered. There isn't enough room in Clark's ass for a bench and witness stand AND his thumb so obviously a federal court is the next best place.

Jamie said...

These people make me crazy... They throw up the Reid, the shoe bomber and Padilla... When Reid was nabbed, the military tribunals had yet to be set up... Padilla had US citizenship. Neither deserved ANY constitutional rights.  I heard Geraldo Rivera on Fox the other day say that all these dirtbags SHOULD be tried as criminals because "we shouldn't elevate them to soldier status"... This guy has a law degree? Jeez... They are not elevated to soldier status when sent to a military tribunal - they are classified as illegal combatants for violating the Law of Land Warfare.

King Shamus said...

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, as much as the Obamatons wish it was.

ArmedGeek said...

The whole point of Gitmo is that you never bring the enemy into the country.  Here's a question ... Say we're at war with SomeCountry.  A bomber pilot from SomeCountry is overflying ... say Miami.  His bombs either fail to release of fail to detonate .. either way, they don't cause damage.  Mechanical problems force him to land.  Local Police are first on the scene (as they very likely would be).

What do you do with the guy ?

JustMe said...

sick doesn't even begin to express how this makes me feel

MK said...

So Brennan and Gibbs just lied and got away with it. This is why these bastards are still in power and running things, because so often they lie through their teeth and no one in the media challenges them on it on the spot.

The obots want to give terrorists and criminals as many rights as they can get away with, because secretly they believe it's all the victims fault any way.

Woodsterman said...

First I'd like to thank Teresa below for calling an apple an apple and an orange an orange. Teresa, thank you ... you sound just like Bunni ... that's a compliment.

When you put a "community organizer" in the White House, you end up with a pussifed comrade in chief !

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